John MacArthur, influential author, pastor and seminary president, has organized what has already proven to be a controversial conference, as he and several other evangelical Christian ministers will gather in October at his Sun Valley, Calif., church to take a corrective stance against what he describes as “strange fire” practices in the charismatic movement…
John MacArthur Takes on Charismatic Movement With ‘Strange Fire’ Conference
SEE A REVIEW/CRITIQUE OF JOHN MACARTHUR’S STRANG FIRE CONFERENCE BY ANTON BOSCH, HERE:
Impressions from Strange Fire
The men of the Bible always fell down when they saw the glory of the Lord. Even the angels fall down before Him.
-Abraham fell on his face before God
-Moses and Aaron fell on their faces in the presence of all the assembly of the congregation and before God
-Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and bowed down
-Ezekiel, and Daniel fell on their faces
-Isaiah said “Woe is me, for I am ruined!Because I am a man of unclean lips, And I live among a people of unclean lips;For my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.”
-Simon Peter fell down at Jesus’ knees, saying, “Depart from me, for I am a sinful man, O Lord!”
-the disciples fell face down to the ground and were terrified
-the leper fell on his face at the feet of Jesus
-the angels who were standing around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, all fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God
In the Bible we never read about anyone who saw God’s glory and said “BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! HO! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! HEY! HEY! HEY! TAKE IT! TAKE! TAKE IT!” As well, we never read that they fell on their backs and laughed while in God’s glory.
Instead, they recognized the glory and holiness of the Lord. They didn’t blabber on about “it” and tell everyone that they felt “it,” and to come and “get some.” They didn’t command God to release His glory. They didn’t draw attention to themselves for having seen God’s glory, or make money from His glory. They just fell down on their faces before God, exposed, terrified. When they saw His glory, they knew their wretchedness, and they worshiped Him. Even the angels do not take God’s glory, but give it back to Him. Except for the fallen ones.
Wolves in sheeps clothing take glory in themselves. They even give glory to angels. Wolves have no fear of God, and they don’t fall on their faces before the Lamb of God. But they will, soon enough. The Lord has said it, and it will come to pass.
“Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Matthew 7: 22,23
A PRAYER ON BEHALF OF THE SHEEP
Lord Jesus, on behalf of your flock, hear our prayer. We repent for not bowing down before you! We have made idols of signs, wonders, gifts, feelings, and experiences, while following men, not You! Forgive us Lord, cleanse our hearts, and send true revival! We bow down and confess, we fall face down before You, the Lamb of God. Only you are worthy to be praised!
We bow down and confess
Give Us Clean Hands
Lord, soften their hearts, open their eyes. Send your Spirit to convict them, for your Name’s sake. Amen.
I’m done now, it’s time to go…
*Sheepyweepy has left the building* (again)
Update on Rick Joyner and Todd Bentley here:
Rick Joyner “Releases” Todd Bentley Back Into Ministry
Update on Todd Bentley:
Todd Bentley Makes Interns Pay, But How Come Jesus Didn’t?
OH SHEEP! PLEASE listen to an excellent sermon about true revival by Pastor Livingston of Central Church (Charlotte, NC) ***HERE*** that will either make you jump up and shout HALLELUJAH or send you to your knees in repentance! Or both.
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!! Praise God for true pastors like this.
Thanks very much to JNj who recommended this link.
This was written in 2007 but is just as important, if not more so, today.
The Letter To Laodicea Is A Warning To The TRUE Church Today
by Sandy Simpson, 4/30/07
Rev. 3:14-22 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Much has been made of this passage, using it to point out what is happening today in the apostate churches around the world. It is true that they believe they are rich in spiritual things when they are very poor. It can be applied in one sense to the Word of Faith movement. It is true that the “River” movement of Latter Rain teachings do think they are hot when actually they are cold.
But this letter to the end times church of Laodicea is actually talking to biblical Christians who are born again…
Read more here:
Whilst doing some tracking for wolves today I came across some very good sheep tracks here at SamE’s Bible Thoughts:
Lakeland: laying down and walking with God
And here is a very good testimony:
Toronto Pastor Speaks on Deception- a testimony of former Toronto Vineyard Pastor Paul Gowdy
John Arnott tracks the Lakeland Revival wave back to the laughing revival released by Rodney Howard Browne
There are some more tracks on the Florida trail this week. John Arnott has come down to bless this revival which he says originally started with the laughing revival of Rodney Howard Browne…you can read about that here:
John Arnott of the Toronto Blessing blesses Todd Bentley at Lakeland
But is this true revival or apostasy?
Who can forget the mockery called the Toronto so called ‘blessing’?
This is revival? Watch this Toronto Blessing video:
Is this laughter Holy? Is a laughing revival supported anywhere in scripture? Or does true revival always come with weeping and repentance?
Here are some helpful links that will help answer these questions:
Dr. Cathy Burns
An E-book on The Toronto Blessing called WEIGHED AND FOUND WANTING by Pastor Bill Randles (1995) can be found HERE.
General Toronto Blessing Articles:
The Toronto ‘Blessing’ and Brownsville ‘Revival’..
Move of God or demonic deception?
In the video from two nights ago (May 26), John Arnott is talking about angel visitations with Todd Bentley…the two angels of revival with packs on their backs that want to go do some tracking of their own and go back to revisit all the same locations touched by Rodney Howard Browne where the blessings were poured out. On the video there is much talk between Arnott and Bentley about angels and revisitations but nothing about Jesus, just releasing and receiving the wind and rain, but no Jesus. Prophecy to the wind, prophecy to the rain, prophecy to the water, says Todd…awaken those revival mantles.
But no Jesus.
Not even milk.
Just Todd shouting at the camera… “Come on God, DO IT again! Light up the network, fire fire fire fire, this is your hour of visitation!”
Lord Jesus, have mercy!
Draw near to God and He will draw near to you Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Be miserable and mourn and weep; let your laughter be turned into mourning and your joy to gloom. James 4: 8,9
Be of sober spirit, be on the alert Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 1 Peter 5:8
This is a comment that someone left on Wolf Tracks today:
“Last night in Lakeland there was an alter call and many people gave their lives to Jesus. Tell me why satan would like people to repent of their sins and give their lives to Jesus?”
That’s a valid question that many are asking. If the Florida outpouring a false revival, why are people getting saved? The answer is that no matter where you go, if you are truly seeking the Shepherd, He will find you. Read this:
“Why are some people finding Jesus and getting healed in Lakeland (or a Benny Hinn conference or elsewhere that looks suspect)? Because if you go ANYWHERE seeking JESUS, you will be found by Him. But if you go seeking Benny or Todd (or whatever is on/in/around them), you’ll be found by that, too!
Real revival is about repentance and brokenness and humility and people on their face weeping for their worldliness. It’s NOT about laughing or falling down or feathers or gold dust or talking to angels. It’s NOT about performance or impressing people or emotional appeals. It’s about FEAR OF THE LORD and His JUSTICE, not one-sided promises of blessing because God just wants to love on you.”
That was a quote from a very very very good newsletter by Doug Perry that you can read the rest of here:
Here is a serious new warning from someone named Doug who has been tracking the Florida revival!
Todd Bentley – Lakeland, Florida – Is THIS a Move of God?
For those who are flocking to this revival, please watch this – what he says may surprise you.
The early believers did not have microphones, cell phones, God T.V. or the internet. They did not have ‘catchers’ or loud speakers to play hypnotizing synthetic music in the background to trigger emotions and keep people in worship mode.
Yet they turned the world upside down.
Here’s a suggestion for everyone who believes the Florida Revival is of God:
- Take away the catchers.
- Take away the performers.
- Take away the instruments.
- Unplug everything electronic.
- Open up your Bibles and read them.
See what ‘happens’ then.
God does not need man made gimmicks to convict the hearts of men. Neither does He instruct us to seek ‘supernatural encounters,’ as some are falsely teaching (see here).
Do you know that the evidence of a true revival is weeping? It’s the agony of conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit that leads to confession, repentance, and a changed heart.
Just listen to this account of the revival in Korea in 1907. This is the account by Mr Lee:
“Man after man would rise to his feet, confess his sins and break down and weep, and then throw himself to the floor and then beat the floor with his fists, in perfect agony of conviction. My own cook tried to make a confession, broke down in the midst of it and cried to me across the room; ‘Pastor tell me, is there any hope for me? Can I be forgiven?’ And then he threw himself to the floor, and wept and wept! And almost screamed in agony. Sometimes after a confession, the whole audience would break out in audible prayer and the effect of that audience of hundreds of men, praying together in audible prayer, was something indescribable. Again, after another confession, they would break out in uncontrollable weeping and we would all weep, we couldn’t help it and so the meeting went on till 2am, with confession and weeping and praying. Each was face to face with God. I can hear yet that fearful sound of hundreds of men, pleading with God for life and for mercy. The cry went out over the city till the heathen were in consternation”.
– Alan Morrison, True Revival Or Apostasy?
In a true revival, those under conviction of sin do not swoon away or fall back in an unconscious stupor. They do not twitch or jerk or laugh and stagger as though drunk (see Comparison Between Kundalini and the so-called Toronto Blessing).
They may fall down as Peter did in agony when confronted with the Lord’s divinity. To be genuinely “slain in the spirit” is to be ‘slain’ by the Law, which reveals our sinful condition next to God’s standard of holiness.
I highly recommend, to those of you who are not quite sure if the Florida Revival is of God, that you read the article by Alan Morrison. The link will be provided below.
In this article, he explains this further:
“In the old style revivals when people fell down, it was a mere effect, a by-product which was caused by their agonies of soul in standing as sinners before a just and holy God. The process of being confronted by the Spirit of God was the cause, and it brought about the effect of falling down. The falling down was an effect, a by-product of their agony. However, in the new style of “revivals”, the process is reversed, so that the falling down becomes a causal experience which can then be induced in people and which itself can generate other effects. In other words, the thing that was formerly just an effect, becomes elevated to a cause, so that instead of it being the process of conversion, which might make you fall down, it becomes the process. Falling down then makes you into a convert! Do you see what I am saying here friends? There is a total inversion of reality. It’s subtle at first, but that’s what’s happening, and when you look at it, you can really see it. The process of conversion might make you fall down, but what happens now is, it’s inverted in these new-style revivals, so that the process of falling down can make you into a convert. And the moment that happens, we move right out of the realms of Christianity into a Pagan ritual; and one might even say an occult initiation.
When you desire to fall down into a trance, so you can be bathed in the Spirit what spirit do you think it is?”
Please read this important article here:
In conclusion, here is a quote from Take the Catchers Away:
“Take the catchers away and everything else went with it. Bang, out the door. There were a couple of people who pitifully still tried to work it up by the flesh and would shake and quake a little bit, but the interest from the rest of the congregation had all but disappeared. When there was no one to perform in front of then the shaking and quaking and jerking would stop.”
God will send true revival to a land – when the sheep weep.
For thus says the high and exalted One
Who lives forever, whose name is Holy,
“I dwell on a high and holy place,
And also with the contrite and lowly of spirit
In order to revive the spirit of the lowly
And to revive the heart of the contrite.
The Kind of Revival We Need
Seeking HIS Face